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Following a book: The Fix-it Shop-Filling Station
There is a local car dealer that always speaks of “A customer for life”. How he had read a book with that title forty years ago and has followed it’s direction since, even giving copies to his employees.
(Not his car lot)
Such dedication to a book. Do you know Christians that are that committed to the Bible? Do we live by it, have it for our guiding principles, give copies to those who are coming behind us?
We should be. The Word of God, the Bible is the inspired Word of the Lord. We need to know it, live by it, declare it, give it away, encourage those who show an interest to delve in, ask questions, seek the face of the Lord.
Thank you Lord, for drawing us to You, help us to understand, know and share Your love and grace.
Historical Christ
The Historical Jesus
What do historical documents other than the Bible tell us about Jesus?
The past actually happened but history is only what someone wrote down.A. Whitney Brown
Most of what we know about Jesus comes from Christian writings. This should be no surprise, since it was Christians who were most interested in telling his story and preserving his memory. But how do these Christian writings compare with what other historians were saying about Jesus at the time?
Scholars have been engaged in what’s been called the “quest for the historical Jesus” since the late 1700s. Yet many of us still want to know if there is credible historical evidence that corroborates what the Bible says about Jesus.
So how does the Christ of the Christian faith square with the Jesus of history?
Roman and Jewish Accounts
Roman classical writings contain several references to Christ and the movement he started.
Around 112 CE, Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan, detailing how he was conducting the trials of those accused of being Christians.1 True believers, he had come to understand, could not be forced to revile Christ and worship the Roman gods. They met on a fixed day before dawn and sang hymns to Christ as if to a God.
A few years later, another historian, Suetonius, wrote that Emperor Claudius had expelled Jews from Rome because of disturbances instigated by Chrestus.2 Most historians think that “Chrestus” is a misspelling of “Christus” (the Latin word for “Christ”). Most also agree that Suetonius is referring to clashes within the Jewish community caused when Jewish Christians were preaching the Christian faith in Rome.
Suetonius’s account indicates that by Claudius’s reign (41–54 CE), less than two decades after Jesus’ crucifixion, there were enough Christians in Rome to cause disturbances serious enough to warrant the expulsion of all Jews from Rome.
One of the most important historical references to Jesus’ crucifixion comes from Tacitus. In Annals 15.44, the historian recounts how Nero blamed the hated “Chrestians” (again, a misspelling of Christians) for the fire that devastated Rome in 64 CE. The group, he said, was founded by one called “Christ” who had been executed during the reign of Tiberius by the procurator (governor) Pontius Pilate. He described them as a suppressed group and their faith as a deadly superstition that originated in Judea and spread to Rome.
Around 175 CE, Celsus wrote a sustained attack on Christians and their founder in True Teaching. Though his original text no longer exists, much of what he wrote is contained in Origen’s response, Against Celsus (c. 250 CE). Celsus mocked the Christian belief in the virgin birth and charged that Jesus was the illegitimate son of a poor Jewish woman named Mary. Mary, he claimed, was divorced by her husband and convicted of adultery after having sex with a soldier named Panthera.3
The same charge is echoed in later Jewish sources and may contain a typical kind of rabbinic pun on the Greek word for “virgin.”4 That is, Jesus was not born of a virgin (Greek: parthenos); he was instead the illegitimate son resulting from Mary’s adultery with Panthera. Another charge leveled by Celsus and reflected in later Jewish writings is that Jesus learned the magical arts, performed powerful acts, and gave himself the title “God.”5
One of the most important extra-biblical witnesses to the Jesus of history comes from Josephus, a Jewish historian. It must be noted that the specific text in which the historian discusses Jesus is considered suspect; Josephus’s writings were preserved by Christians who may have Christianized his testimony slightly.6
But even after extracting the downright Christian elements, Josephus still has a good deal to say about Jesus. He situated Jesus in the correct time period and depicted him as a wise man, a teacher, and a worker of miracles. He indicated that:
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- Jesus made converts of Jews and Greeks,
- Pilate condemned Jesus to the cross in consultation with leading Jewish authorities,
- his disciples had remained faithful to him after his death, and
- the people known as Christians had taken their name from him.7
All Together Now
When taken together, these extra-biblical witnesses tell us a few important things about the historical Jesus. This information matches what the New Testament says:
- Jesus founded a movement among Jews in Judea.
- Mary was his mother.
- He performed powerful deeds.
- He was a wise man and a recognized teacher.
- He made converts of both Jews and Gentiles.
- He was crucified on a Roman cross by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius after accusations were made against him by Jewish religious leaders.
- He instilled confidence and trust among his followers, who remained faithful to him even beyond his death.
Moreover, what these accounts say about Jesus cannot be isolated from what they say about the movement he started:
- True Christians were identified by their religious practice; they would not revile Christ or worship other gods.
- They met on a fixed day and sang hymns to Christ as if he were a God.
- They were part of a movement named for Christ that spread quickly from Judea to Rome, and there were clashes with Jews when his followers proclaimed their Christian faith.
- They believed Jesus was born of a virgin.
- They were suppressed and persecuted, but they remained faithful.
Taken together, these witnesses corroborate some of what the New Testament says about Jesus and the Christian movement—though the New Testament outlines more of what Jesus said and did.
Unity Despite Bias
Still, let’s consider these Roman and Jewish sources. They are not objective, unbiased accounts of Jesus and the movement he founded. They were written by opponents and critics of Christianity.
With the exception of Josephus—who appears to maintain a more open attitude—the Jewish sources regard Jesus as a false messiah and Christianity as a heresy that must be squelched. The Roman historians consider Christ to be the founder of a dangerous superstition and a terrible evil that has infiltrated society.
Yet remarkably, these biased sources against Christianity often square with what the biased sources for Christianity have to say regarding some of the crucial details of Jesus’ life and death.
If we are honest, we must recognize that objectivity is a myth;8 all sources are biased.9 No one writes or speaks about history from no perspective whatsoever. However, just because a source is biased one way or another does not mean that its testimony cannot be trusted.
Indeed, as evidence is sifted and sorted, more and more people recognize that early Christian texts—written from an unapologetically Christian perspective—are valuable sources for reconstructing the history of Jesus. To identify the historical Jesus, one must be willing to examine the evidence from each side in a rational, coherent way, no matter the source.
- Pliny the Younger, Letters, 10.96.
- Suetonius, Lives of the Caesars, 25.4.
- Origen, Against Celsus, 1.28–32. See Robert E. Van Voorst, “Sources, Extra-New Testamental,” 602–605, in The Routledge Encyclopedia of the Historical Jesus, ed. Craig A. Evans (London: Routledge, 2008).
- b. Sabb 104b.
- b. Sanh 43a. The Talmud indicates that Yeshu (Jesus) was hanged on the eve of Passover and charged with practicing magic and trying to turn the people of Israel away from the one true God. These are Jewish charges for which stoning, not hanging, would have been the traditionally correct punishment.
- Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, 18.3.3.
- For a helpful survey of other evidence, see Robert van Voorst, Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 2000).
- See Richard F. Taflinger, “The Myth of Objectivity in Journalism: A Commentary,” May 29, 1996, accessed January 25, 2013, public.wsu.edu/~taflinge/mythobj.html.
- Until computers can be programmed to sort through the facts and write a detached, unprejudiced history, human beings—with all their questions, assumptions, limitations, and “issues”—will continue to struggle with the past and tell its story from their own subjective perspectives. This, of course, will never be realized because human beings would be writing the code and inputting the data. As long as human beings are involved in the process in any way, true objectivity will never be realized.
- Photo Credit: Shelly Perry / Stocksy.com.
Gaggle of geese :
You can’t see it but these geese are running away from a church bus, that stopped to bring some children to church.
The lack of Gods presence (in power and deed), is the reason parents send the kids, but run away themselves.
We need to allow Gods Spirit and power back into our lives, to become fruitful, growing churches.
Lord, help us to be open to Your Spirit.
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2 Peter 1:9
” But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.”
Are you lacking in anything? I am. Why? Because I am not the man of God that I long to be. Why? Because I am blind, I have allowed the Old Man to dominate in my life. I lack the wisdom and willingness to truly follow my Lord.
Self will overcomes selflessness, pride, greed, lust overcomes service and love for others. What must I do to correct my wrong headedness?
Seek that which I lack:
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“ he brought forth his people with joy”
This is a partial verse from Psalm105:43a, it is referring to the Exodus. The slaves were set free, they left Egypt with the spoils of their Masters. They had the Lords protective presence before and behind them.
They had crossed the Red Sea and they saw the Egyptian Army drown, on what a few minutes before,
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the word of the Lord was precious – The Fix-it Shop – Filling Station
This is from 1 Samuel 3:1. ” the word of the Lord was precious in those days; there was no open vision.”
We find Eli the High Priest a man that knew the Form, Rituals, Duties and Laws of the Lord but didn’t seem to know the Lord at all.
His sons were ungodly, taking the best of the Sacrifices for themselves, leaving the dregs for God. Entertaining themselves with the Prostitutes who were in the area.
The Temple should have had a warning sign.
It was a form of godliness, denying the power thereof.
I believe that is why the sons were off track.
Their Rituals were dead, there was no life. No truth to their Worship. It’s hard to be a Servant of the living God, when He is far from you because of your sin and unbelief.
Hannah, had come and prayed for a son, whom she would dedicate to the Lords service. Her prayer was answered and after the child was weaned, she entrusted him to Eli to learn the ways of the Lord.
It is a wonderful thing that Eli, a man who knew not the Lord, could teach Samuel to be a man that the Lord could and would use.
Why Samuel and not his sons? Hannah had given him to the Lord, prayed for him, taught him at home before giving him to Eli. Hannah shared her living faith.
Samuel had an open heart and mind to serve and obey the Lord.
It wasn’t long before Samuel heard the voice of the Lord, who gave him a Word of Knowledge, the Lord told him of the end of Eli and sons.
So the Word of the Lord was precious, (hidden, not proclaimed), until a suitable vessel was in place.
Today Saints, the Word of the Lord could go forth in Power and Might, if the Lord found suitable vessels in His body.
By the ninth chapter we find:
“the Lord had told Samuel in his ear a day before Saul came,”
Samuel was an open, obedient, reliable and humble vessel, the Lord told Him many things, before they came to pass. Wouldn’t that be handy in our lives?
Has the Lord spoken into your ear? Would you recognize His voice if He did? The Lord will speak to those who will listen. Has He been trying to get your attention?
Is there something in your lo life that is more important than Him? A person or thing, greed,
lust, pride?
It could be that small sin you won’t left go of. You feed it when you’re alone. You don’t want anyone to know, it shames you, you believe you have it conquered, then it sneaks back into the light.
No matter how hard we try, the old man raises his ugly head. How long oh Lord?
Until, you are fully immersed in His Word, desire His presence, allow His leading, guiding, directing your path.
We must take a page from Samuels book. Love and Obey the Lord with our heart, soul, mind and strength.
Love one another, be open to say: “Speak Lord, your servant listens.”
Then we may find Power and Might in our Worship.
Lions, Tigers and Stats, Oh My! – Blogging 201
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When did Jesus receive power?
When did Jesus receive Power?
I would hazard a guess, that most people think Jesus was powerful from birth, I don’t believe so.
He told His Disciples:
“You will receive power after the Holy Ghost shall come upon you.”
I believe the same held true for Jesus. You remind me of the water into wine.? Remember the response Jesus gave:
I also will keep thee: The Fix-it Shop-Filling Station
While reading Wally Fry’s devotional this morning at “Truth at Palmya” about the Church at Philadelphia. This piece of scipture grabbed my attention :
Revelation 3:1
” Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”
“I also will keep thee”
The Lords promise to keep us as he did the Pharaoh in Abrams time:
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Hebrews 12
“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; ”
Is there a sin that you seem to conquer and all of sudden it’s back to plaque you. You have repeatedly asked the Lord for forgiveness, deliverance. …You are clean, free until you’re not? Continue reading


















