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Man and his Maker : The Filling Station 3
I apologize, I believe the Lord has given me a word about the Trinity in the Old Testament that dovetails with a word about walking with God.
I find myself wanting to list every scripture that supports my “Billism”, (a truth I see in the Word, that is not taught as such).
First off; I firmly believe that the Lord in The Old Testament is Yahweh or Jehovah the Everlasting, Existent One. The Law giver, known as the Father in the New Testament.
God the Creator / Supreme Ruler of the Old Testament is Elohim or Adonai the Supreme Master who we know as Jesus or Yeshua in the New.
As we look in The Old Testament we find most sacrifices made to the Lord, (because Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice ). The Lord speaks of Job fearing God and hating evil. The Lord sees Moses but God speaks.
Almost identical statements spoken by the Lord and then God. The marked differences in the Spirit of the Lord and the Spirit of God.
I can point you to these and many more verses but what is the point? Does this mean anything to you and your walk with Jesus?
There are only two people named in the Old Testament that walked with God. Enoch who walked with God and was not because God took him and Noah, who found grace with the Lord because he walked with God.
Both these men were preachers of righteousness.
Then we have Abraham, David, Hezekiah, Samson, Gideon who walked before the Lord or had the Spirit of the Lord come upon them.
These men were all warriors for the Lord.
Moses walked the the way of the Lord. He was and amazing prophet of the Lord.
Then we have Levi, whom the Lord Himself said: “Levi walked with Me.”
That is the story I am struggling to tell. Is anyone interested? I believe I know why the Lord has chosen Levi as His priest.
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Man and his Maker:
I’ve been a Christian for over 35 years and for the first 30, when I read the Old Testament, the Lord God was one member of the Trinity.
He was the Father God of the New Testament, the Old Man frowning down at us from the throne.
The Law giver and judge. A scary God to be feared and obeyed.
Then I had a revelation: I remembered the story of Moses and the burning bush:
Exodus 3:1-8. Names of God Bible: (I use this Bible to emphasis the different names and Natures of the Godhead).
Moses at the Burning Bush
3 Moses was taking care of the sheep of his father-in-law Jethro, the priest of Midian. As he led the sheep to the far side of the desert, he came to Horeb, the mountain of Elohim.
2 The Messenger of Yahweh appeared to him there as flames of fire coming out of a bush. Moses looked, and although the bush was on fire, it was not burning up. 3 So he thought, “Why isn’t this bush burning up? I must go over there and see this strange sight.”
4 When Yahweh saw that Moses had come over to see it, Elohim called to him from the bush, “Moses, Moses!”
Moses answered, “Here I am!”
5 Elohim said, “Don’t come any closer! Take off your sandals because this place where you are standing is holy ground. 6 I am the Elohim of your ancestors,[a] the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” Moses hid his face because he was afraid to look at Elohim.
7 Yahweh said, “I have seen the misery of my people in Egypt, and I have heard them crying out because of the slave drivers. I know how much they’re suffering. 8 I have come to rescue them from the power of the Egyptians and to bring them from that land to a good land with plenty of room for everyone.
First off let us look at the Names of God. Elohim is Hebrew or Chaldee for God the Creator and Supreme Ruler of all.
Yahweh is Hebrew or Chaldee for Lord or the self Existent or Everlasting One.
So in the passage above we have Moses at the mountain of Elohim (God). When the Messenger of Yahweh, (The Everlasting One) appeared as flames of fire in a bush that was not consumed.
Whrn Yahweh noticed that Moses was paying attention, Elohim called out: “Take off your shoes this is holy ground”.
Elohim explained he was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Moses hid his face.
Then Yahweh spoke: “I have seen the misery and heard the cry of the people. I know how and why they are suffering and will rescue them and bring them to a land of milk and honey”.
Moses was the man who knew the Godhead best, he referred to them as Lord and God and Spirit, he knew the three faces or Natures of the Godhead and spoke of them as individuals.
He told us Eve said the Lord gave her Cain and Able, they gave offerings to the Lord, the Lord rejected Cains and Cain left the presence of the Lord.
Later she tells us God gave her Seth, Seth had a son named Enosh and then men began to call upon the name of (or Worship) the Lord.
That is what started my quest. I have been searching and studying the Word ever since, determined to understand and share this, to me, a new truth, or understanding of the Godhead.
I hope you will follow along and be blessed by the experience.
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Genesis 42:
Joseph’s brothers come to Egypt to find food….Joseph jails one and sends them home to bring back their younger brother.
Genesis 43,44
No man and maker interactions, few mentions of Elohim.
Genesis 45:
Joseph Reveals His Identity
3 Joseph said to his brothers, “I am Joseph! Is my father still alive?” His brothers could not answer him because they were afraid of him.
4 “Please come closer to me,” Joseph said to his brothers. When they did so, he said, “I am Joseph, the brother you sold into slavery in Egypt! 5 Now, don’t be sad or angry with yourselves that you sold me.Elohim sent me ahead of you to save lives. 6 The famine has been in the land for two years. There will be five more years without plowing or harvesting. 7 Elohim sent me ahead of you to make sure that you would have descendants on the earth and to save your lives in an amazing way. 8 It wasn’t you who sent me here, but Elohim. He has made me like a father to Pharaoh, lord over his entire household, and ruler of Egypt.
9 “Hurry back to my father, and say to him, ‘This is what your son Joseph says, “Elohim has made me lord of Egypt
Genesis 46:
Jacob’s [Israel’s] Seventh Encounter with God
46 Israel moved with all he had. When he came to Beersheba, he offered sacrifices to the Elohim of his father Isaac.
2 Elohim spoke to Israel in a vision that night and said, “Jacob, Jacob!”
“Here I am,” he answered.
3 “I am El, the Elohim of your father,” he said. “Don’t be afraid to go to Egypt, because I will make you a great nation there. 4 I will go with you to Egypt, and I will make sure you come back again. Joseph will close your eyes when you die.”
30 Israel said to Joseph, “Now that I’ve seen for myself that you’re still alive, I’m ready to die.”
31 Then Joseph said to his brothers and his father’s family, “I’m going to Pharaoh to tell him, ‘My brothers and my father’s family, who were in Canaan, have come to me. 32 The men are shepherds. They take care of livestock. They’ve brought their flocks and herds and everything they own.’ 33 Now, when Pharaoh calls for you and asks, ‘What kind of work do you do?’ 34 you must answer, ‘We have taken care of herds all our lives, as our ancestors have done.’ You must say this so that you may live in the region of Goshen, because all shepherds are disgusting to Egyptians.”
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What to believe?
I have family that I love who are Godly, giving, loving and religious. They are Mormons.
I saw on Facebook, (I guess I would call it), a defense of Mormon beliefs, kind of equating Joseph Smith to Moses
To show us the Lords way. (My words, I lost the article, computer is still a second language).
(I will say the Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses have a better handle on Missionary work and helping others than most other Christian Denominations.)
The thing that struck me is both Joseph Smith and the Christian Church have missed the mark and for the same reason.
The Mormons believe that when the Apostles died there was no longer Godly leadership in the Church.
The Church went into error.
The Christian Church seems to believe that when the Apostles died the signs and wonders stopped.
I think thats where the Church went into error.
If we believe Jesus, than when we look behind us we should be seeing signs and wonders. We may see a few but the God I believe in is Mighty.
So what is the problem?
Jesus told the parable of the talents. He told it in terms of money because we all understand its use.
Whst if He was really talking about the Gifts of the Spirit.
I believe we see a few who have multiplied some of the Gifts.
– Peter, James, John, Paul, Steven. …then the signs and wonders stopped.
Then we see them again:
– Katherin Kohlman, Oral Roberts, RW Schambach, Benny Hinn and other lesser knowns.
Why them and not us?
They pressed into the Holy of Holies and touched the hem of His garment.
Mark 6 tells us all who on touched the hem of His garment were healed.
We seem to think our preaching is the only tool Christ left us to build His kingdom, I contend He left us the Gifts of the Spirit and we have left them on the shelf.
Well saints, according to your faith, so be it. As for me, I will continue to boldly seek to enter the Holy of Holies.
I will continue to reach for the hem of His garment, until I see the signs, wonders and miracles following as He promised.
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Once again I remind you, this study is about the interaction between man and the Lord (Yahweh) and God ( Elohim ).
Genesis 36:
The story of Esau…no interaction.
Genesis 37:
Joseph sold into slavery.
Joseph’s Brothers Sell Him into Slavery
37 Jacob continued to live in the land of Canaan, where his father had lived.
2 This is the account of Jacob and his descendants.
Joseph was a seventeen-year-old young man. He took care of the flocks with the sons of Bilhah and Zilpah, his father’s wives. Joseph told his father about the bad things his brothers were doing.
3 Israel loved Joseph more than all his sons because Joseph had been born in Israel’s old age. So he made Joseph a special robe with long sleeves. 4 Joseph’s brothers saw that their father loved him more than any of them. They hated Joseph and couldn’t speak to him on friendly terms.
5 Joseph had a dream and when he told his brothers, they hated him even more. 6 He said to them, “Please listen to the dream I had. 7 We were tying grain into bundles out in the field, and suddenly mine stood up. It remained standing while your bundles gathered around my bundle and bowed down to it.”
8 Then his brothers asked him, “Are you going to be our king or rule us?” They hated him even more for his dreams and his words.
9 Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream: I saw the sun, the moon, and 11 stars bowing down to me.”
Jacob’s Fifth Encounter with God
35 Then Elohim said to Jacob, “Go to Bethel and live there. Make an altar there. I am the El who appeared to you when you were fleeing from your brother Esau.”
I just point you to Psalm 105:19, speaking of Joseph.
“Yahweh’s promise tested him through fiery trials
until his prediction came true.”
God spoke to Jacob, the Lord gave Joseph his dream l
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Genesis 35:
Jacob’s Fifth Encounter with God
35 Then Elohim said to Jacob, “Go to Bethel and live there. Make an altar there. I am the El who appeared to you when you were fleeing from your brother Esau.”
5 As they moved on, Elohim made the people of the cities that were all around them terrified so that no one pursued them. 6 Jacob and all the people who were with him came to Luz (that is, Bethel) in the land of Canaan. 7 He built an altar there and called that place El Bethel [God of the House of God]. That’s where Elohim had revealed himself to Jacob when he was fleeing from his brother. 8 Rebekah’s nurse Deborah died and was buried under the oak tree outside Bethel. So Jacob called it the Tree of Crying.
Jacob’s Sixth Encounter with God—His Name Changed to Israel
9 Then Elohim appeared once more to Jacob after he came back from Paddan Aram, and he blessed him. 10 Elohim said to him, “Your name is Jacob. You will no longer be called Jacob, but your name will be Israel.” So he named him Israel.
11 Elohim also said to him, “I am El Shadday. Be fertile, and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will come from you. 12 I will give you the land that I gave to Abraham and Isaac. I will also give this land to your descendants.”13 Then Elohim went up from him at the place where he had spoken with him. 14 So Jacob set up a memorial, a stone marker, to mark the place where Elohim had spoken with him. He poured a wine offering and olive oil on it. 15 Jacob named the place where Elohim had spoken with him Bethel [House of God].
(El Shadday – Almighty God )
Jacob had 12 sons.
23 The sons of Leah were
Jacob’s firstborn Reuben, then Simeon,
Levi, Judah, Issachar, and Zebulun.
24 The sons of Rachel were
Joseph and Benjamin.
25 The sons of Rachel’s slave Bilhah were
Dan and Naphtali.
26 The sons of Leah’s slave Zilpah were
Gad and Asher.
These were Jacob’s sons, who were born in Paddan Aram.
27 Jacob came home to his father Isaac to Mamre’s city, Kiriath Arba (that is, Hebron). Abraham and Isaac had lived there for a while.28 Isaac was 180 years old 29 when he took his last breath and died. He joined his ancestors in death at a very old age. His sons Esau and Jacob buried him.
Note: In Genesis 31:3
Then Yahweh said to Jacob, “Go back to the land of your ancestors and to your relatives, and I will be with you.”
The Lord sent him back, after that he met Elohim, God.
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The Fix-it Shop – The Holy Spirit
Here are the verses in the Old Testament that mention the Holy Spirit :
Psalm 51:10-12
King James Version (KJV)
“Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.”
Isaiah 63:9-11
King James Version (KJV)
“In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?”
These two are the only mentions of the Holy Spirit. …both about being grieved. In Daniel he speaks of the spirits of thd holy gods.
Daniel 4:7-9
King James Version (KJV)
“Then came in the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers: and I told the dream before them; but they did not make known unto me the interpretation thereof. But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my God, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying, O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.”
Daniel 4:18
“This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.”
Daniel 5:11
“There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;”
How about the Spirit of God or Spirit of the Lord in the New Testament.
Spirit of God:
“Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
cast out devils by the Spirit of God,
the Spirit of God dwell in you.
led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God;
things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
the things of the Spirit of God: are spiritually discerned.
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
The Spirit of the Lord :
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door
the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more:
the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
The Holy Spirit : NOG BIBLE
There are 89 mentions of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament. In the KJV there are 89 mentions of the Holy Ghost and 4 Holy Spirit mentions.
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The Filling Station – Genesis 34:
Dinah Is Raped
This is one of the most interesting stories in the Word. We know practically nothing of Levis life, really only this story. The only words of his we hear are here.
,“Should Shechem have been allowed to treat our sister like a prostitute?”
We never hear the Lord or God condemning Levi or his brother for killing all those people. Instead the Levites become the priest’s of God.
WHY?
I believe they did the right thing….it is the “feet that shed innocent blood that the Lord hates”….
We hear no condemnation for Moses in the murder of the Egyptian either.
Do I believe the Lord would have us killing people? NO NEVER!!!
The creator of all, views life differently. Read the book….Understand the character of the Almighty did not change when Jesus came to earth.
The only thing that changed is our ability to know, understand and obey Him. To please Him by simply loving Him and trusting Him to forgive us as we turn towards Him.
The blood of Jesus, freed us from the curse of sin and death.
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The Fix-it Shop : The Spirit of the Lord
We just looked at the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim), now we will study the Spirit of the Lord. (The Ruach Yahweh ). As we study the word we should ask the Holy Spirit for Wisdom and Understanding.
The first mention of the Ruach Yahweh is in the book of Judges 3:10
“When the Ruach Yahweh came over him, he became the judge of Israel. He went out to war. Yahweh handed King Cushan Rishathaim of Aram Naharaim over to him, and Othniel overpowered him.”
Again in Judges 11:29
“Then the Ruach Yahweh came over Jephthah. Jephthah went through Gilead, Manasseh, and Mizpah in Gilead to gather an army. From Mizpah in Gilead Jephthah went to attack Ammon.”
The Ruach Yahweh is a Spirit of warfare:
We find Ruach Yahweh in the life of Samson :
“The Ruach Yahweh came over him. With his bare hands, he tore the lion apart as if it were a young goat.
When the Ruach Yahweh came over him, he went to Ashkelon and killed 30 men there.
But the Ruach Yahweh came over him. The ropes on his arms became like strings burned in a fire, and those on his hands snapped.”
We find the Ruach Yahweh in the life of King Saul to prophesy:
“Then the Ruach Yahweh will come over you. You will be a different person while you prophesy with them.” (King Saul )
In David :
” Samuel took the flask of olive oil and anointed David in the presence of his brothers. The Ruach Yahweh came over David and stayed with him from that day on. Then Samuel left for Ramah.”
King Saul lost the Spirit :
“Now, the Ruach Yahweh had left Saul, and an evil spirit from Yahweh tormented him.”
Note: Yahweh can send an evil spirit to torment or harden a heart as he did to Pharaoh. “He sits on His throne and does as He pleases.”
The Ruach Yahweh was upon Elijah and Elisha, gave the Word of the Lord to Samuel, also:
“the Ruach Yahweh came to Jahaziel.
Jahaziel said, “Pay attention to me, everyone from Judah, everyone living in Jerusalem, and King Jehoshaphat. This is what Yahweh says to you: Don’t be frightened or terrified by this large crowd. The battle isn’t yours. It’s Elohim’s.”
In Isaiah we find the Ruach Yahweh also supplies :
The Ruach Yahweh will rest on him— the Ruach of wisdom and understanding, the Ruach of advice and power, the Ruach of knowledge and fear of Yahweh.” like the Ruach Elohim.
Micah 3:8
Names of God Bible (NOG)
“But I am filled with the power of Ruach Yahweh,
with justice, and with strength.
So I will tell the descendants of Jacob about their crimes
and the nation of Israel about its sins.”
The Ruach Yahweh is a Spirit of warfare as well as prophesy, wisdom and understanding.
There are 20 Old Testament verses of the Ruach Yahweh, 16 of Ruach Elohim.
Did you realize that Daniel mentions the holy spirits of God, David prays in Psalm 51, take not your Holy Spirit away and in Isaiah 63 , the prophet speaks of vexing the Holy Spirit. These are the only mentions of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament.
The Holy Spirit is a New Testament experience.
We next study the Holy Spirit :
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The Filling Station – Genesis 32:
Jacob Sends Messages and Gifts to Esau
32 [a]As Jacob went on his way, Elohim’s angels met him. 2 When he saw them, Jacob said, “This is Elohim’s camp!” He named that place Mahanaim [Two Camps].
3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in Seir, the country of Edom.
6 When the messengers came back to Jacob, they said, “We went to your brother Esau. He is coming to meet you with 400 men.”
7 Jacob was terrified and distressed. So he divided the people, the sheep and goats, the cattle, and the camels into two camps. 8 He thought, “If Esau attacks the one camp, then the other camp will be able to escape.”
9 Then Jacob prayed, “Elohim of my grandfather Abraham and Elohimof my father Isaac! Yahweh, you said to me, ‘Go back to your land and to your relatives, and I will make you prosperous.’ 10 I’m not worthy of all the love and faithfulness you have shown me. I only had a shepherd’s staff when I crossed the Jordan River, but now I have two camps. 11 Please save me from my brother Esau, because I’m afraid of him. I’m afraid that he’ll come and attack me and the mothers and children too. 12 But you did say, ‘I will make sure that you are prosperous and that your descendants will be as many as the grains of sand on the seashore. No one will be able to count them because there are so many.’”
Jacob’s Fourth Encounter with God—He Wrestles with God
22 During that night he got up and gathered his two wives, his two slaves and his eleven children and crossed at the shallow part of the Jabbok River. 23 After he sent them across the stream, he sent everything else across. 24 So Jacob was left alone. Then a man wrestled with him until dawn. 25 When the man saw that he could not win against Jacob, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that it was dislocated as they wrestled. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go; it’s almost dawn.”
But Jacob answered, “I won’t let you go until you bless me.”
27 So the man asked him, “What’s your name?”
“Jacob,” he answered.
28 The man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob but Israel [He Struggles With God], because you have struggled with Elohim and with men—and you have won.”
29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”
The man answered, “Why do you ask for my name?” Then he blessed Jacob there. 30 So Jacob named that place Peniel [Face of God], because he said, “I have seen Elohim face to face, but my life was saved.” 31 The sun rose as he passed Penuel.[b] He was limping because of his hip. 32 (Therefore, even today the people of Israel do not eat the muscle of the thigh attached to the hip socket because Elohim touched the socket of Jacob’s hip at the muscle of the thigh.)
Quite a story for a man who only prayed when in trouble. …remember Elohim blessed him because of Abraham.
Genesis 33:
Jacob Meets Esau
4 Then Esau ran to meet Jacob. Esau hugged him, threw his arms around him, and kissed him. They both cried. 5 When he saw the women and children, Esau asked, “Who are these people here with you?”
“The children Elohim has graciously given me, sir,” Jacob answered.
6 Then the slaves and their children came forward and bowed down.7 Likewise, Leah and her children came forward and bowed down. Finally, Joseph and Rachel came forward and bowed down.
8 Then Esau asked, “Why did you send this whole group of people and animals I met?”
He answered, “To win your favor, sir.”
9 Esau said, “I have enough. Keep what you have, Brother.”
10 Jacob said, “No, please take the gift I’m giving you, because I’ve seen your face as if I were seeing the face of Elohim, and yet you welcomed me so warmly. 11 Please take the present I’ve brought you, because Elohim has been gracious to me and has given me all that I need.” So Esau took it because Jacob insisted.
12 Then Esau said, “Let’s get ready to go, and I’ll go with you.”
18 So having come from Paddan Aram, Jacob came safely to the city of Shechem in Canaan. He camped within sight of the city. 19 Then he bought the piece of land on which he had put up his tents. He bought it from the sons of Hamor, father of Shechem, for 100 pieces of silver.20 He set up an altar there and named it El Is the Elohim of
If you want to know the story of their meeting. …read chapter 33
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